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UnplayedJigsawJigsaw Sudoku-12 5912x127946:59Tricky (33)Subscribers only23rd Jul-
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Best time without any aid43:21 by winterer
Best time with show wrong
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3:49 by iridescentnovae
Average solve time with no or minor aid1:01:12
Average difficulty rating - all players6.0/10.0
Average difficulty rating - no aid7.8/10.0
Average difficulty rating - major aid10.0/10.0
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Posted 28th Jul 2020 at 12:04
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 58:14 Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
I had an obvious mistake and went back to see where it came from. When I saw it I wanted to go forward to where I was and fix it from there. But I accidentally pressed C instead of X. So all my forward-history was gone and I had to resume from a point where I didn't know anymore what the current solving strategy was. C and X right next to each other is not a good keyboard layout :-(
At the end I had 5 wrong numbers (1 next to 1 in one row...). At least I could figure that out without help.
Still, I'd like to know where I went wrong with that, but after checking the puzzle there is no going back anymore :-(

But a nice puzzle - I'm not sure whether it is really that hard as it is rated.

Posted 28th Jul 2020 at 16:17
Elisabeth Daily subscriber Has not played this puzzle yet
I didn't know C did that!
Posted 28th Jul 2020 at 16:46
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 58:14 Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
Problem is that C was toggling on and off the pencil mark of the letter C in this puzzle. So I could undo all my C-toggles by pressing Z but I could not redo what was in the history memory before I pressed C the first time.
(I hope I made myself clear)
Posted 29th Jul 2020 at 00:18
Last edited by gareth 29th Jul 2020 at 00:24
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
Elisabeth, he means that when he placed the letter 'C' he lost his 'redo' history, just as if you press undo a lot in Word and then type a letter you can no longer 'redo' what you've already undone. It's not that the letter 'C' has any special function beyond placing a C in the grid.

In any case, this is the first comment about C and X in 13 years so if it's 13 more years before it happens again then it's probably not much of a general problem. :) But I'm sorry for the annoyance even so!

As for losing the undo history when completed, it is still there but just inaccessible - you could enter developer mode and reenable the button, I guess! It disables it to avoid confusion, not for any other reason. Perhaps I could leave it active, so long as nothing else was available, on completion - I have occasionally been interesting in replaying my solve too.

The site could also allow you to save your solve - it probably wouldn't be too hard to make work (although I've found on touch devices a bunch of extraneous extra presses end up saved too), but then I'd need some kind of 'playback' controls too. I'd like to do it at some point though.

Posted 29th Jul 2020 at 00:19
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
PS Next time press 'save' at your current state, JoergWausW, before undoing - just in case! :) Then you can just reload the puzzle to restore your position.
Posted 30th Jul 2020 at 10:32
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 58:14 Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
@PS: saving is a good idea, but one question: at what point do you lose your "solved in one session"-status? By saving or by restoring?
Posted 30th Jul 2020 at 12:50
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
When the player is opened a second time. Saving has no negative effect.
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  • Rating scores out of 10.0 show the average difficulty rating chosen by users, where 1.0 is "Easy" and 10.0 is "Hard".
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