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Comments and Results for 'Jigsaw Killer 4'

StateTypeTitleSizePlayedAvg timeRating (#users)YoursYour bestPublishedExpires
UnplayedJigsaw KillerJigsaw Killer 49x982328:443.7 (352)--02/03/1002/04/10
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Completed by467 users
Best first time2:21 by alien2357
Best first time without 'Show wrong'4:34 by singingmary
Best first time without 'Show wrong'
or 'Check solution' when wrong
6:31 by Rachel
Best first time without any aids8:38 by 1112295556
Average rating - solved & no aids3.7
Average rating - unsolved & gave up6.5
Average solve time without aids32:47
26 comments (Add new comment)
Posted 02/03/10 at 01:03
gareth Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
This is fairly difficult... good luck! :)

Gareth, puzzlemix

Posted 02/03/10 at 06:13
vivayossarian Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 22:17
That was fun. Thanks!
Posted 02/03/10 at 08:53
mariemuad Rated puzzle: 2 Completion time: 21:32
not too clear for the limits of the killer numbers
Posted 02/03/10 at 09:50
Rachel Rated puzzle: 2 Completion time: 6:31 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove'
Thanks, that was fun - the more challenging the better :-)
Posted 02/03/10 at 16:22
cmbarrass Rated puzzle: 7 Completion time: 1:41:51 Used 'auto remove' Used 'show wrong moves'
Really good fun. Please don't make them any harder!
Posted 02/03/10 at 16:44
gareth Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I'm making more at the moment, and from today on there will be one every week in the daily puzzle section as well as one every month in the weekly puzzle section. If they're really popular then I could increase these quantities, but they're probably a little "specialist" and I don't want to crowd out the other puzzles.

mariemuad, I do take your point - of course with two sets of jigsaw regions (killer and sudoku) it's always going to be a little confusing, but would an option to disable the different colours for the jigsaw regions help? If so I can add this to the user options page.

Gareth, puzzlemix

Posted 02/03/10 at 21:33
Obasama Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 52:57 Used 'auto remove' Used 'show wrong moves'
Great Puzzle...should have more in the Daily offering...and just a bit tougher.
Posted 03/03/10 at 00:29
abresler Rated puzzle: 9 Completion time: 19:02 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove' Used 'show wrong moves'
Really, really hard, man... fantastic puzzle.
Posted 03/03/10 at 04:58
Kenzie Rated puzzle: 6 Completion time: 22:15 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove' Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
Changing the colors might help. The bigger confusion is dotted lines running close with solid lines sometimes (consider the bottom left '35'). Great puzzle though! Thanks
Posted 03/03/10 at 07:38
cmbarrass Rated puzzle: 7 Completion time: 1:41:51 Used 'auto remove' Used 'show wrong moves'
I agree about the confusion with the dotted lines but please don't remove the colours; it's the only thing that kept me sane. Thank goodness I'm noit colour blind!
Posted 03/03/10 at 18:54
Yinna Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 43:02 Used 'show wrong moves'
Nice new puzzle! I like them difficult. No problems with colors or dotted lines for me.
Posted 03/03/10 at 19:03
princessaileia Rated puzzle: 2 Completion time: 16:34
Fantastic puzzle. Took a little getting used to the dotted regions and the solid regions. Maybe a little more practice with this type and it would be doable without even pencil marks. Really enjoyable, though.
Posted 03/03/10 at 20:17
dreaminbigmama Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
I love the challenge. Thank you for all your work for me to exercise my brain.
Posted 04/03/10 at 02:03
onlyjedi Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 27:10
I loved this puzzle. I seem to have missed 1-3 though, I guess those were subscriber only?

I do agree about the dotted lines being a bit hard to see though when they run near the bold lines. Perhaps you should make the dotted lines bolder and the bold lines thinner? The colors already help tell the jigsaw areas apart, so we don't need those bold as well.

Posted 04/03/10 at 05:53
swatiprakashgarg Rated puzzle: 2 Completion time: 28:41 Used 'remove' Used 'show wrong moves' Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
Brilliant and a fun to solve. do add more of this kind!!
Posted 04/03/10 at 12:27
loublou Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 9:21
I don't mean to accuse anyone of cheating, but how did pstrnr manage to finish this puzzle in 3:18 without using any aids? I thought my time of 9:21 was pretty fast.
Posted 04/03/10 at 16:23
gareth Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
Wow - thanks so much for all the feedback! I'll make some line-width adjustments as suggested by onlyjedi and see how it goes.

Answering questions:

obasma - there is a new killer jigsaw in the daily section every week now.

onlyjedi - I have separate numbering for weekly and daily sections, so no; the previous three were in this section but just a long time ago (2008 and earlier!)

loublou - you can play the puzzle multiple times and the 'best time' shown will still update if you play again (perhaps it shouldn't - in fact probably it shouldn't, but that's another issue). The other player has played the puzzle several times, and took much longer on their first attempt. For what it's worth, any time under half an hour is not bad at all! A time under 10 minutes on your first go without aids... well I think that's pretty remarkable! (Also, it's worth noting that for any puzzle played by a lot of people there are bound to be some surprisingly quick times just through luck, including lucky mistakes! Plus some people really are astoundingly good at the puzzles!)

Gareth, puzzlemix

Posted 04/03/10 at 22:09
gareth Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
Okay, I've made the jigsaw region lines much thinner - only slightly thicker than the regular grid lines, in fact.

I did try making the killer cage dashed lines thicker, as discussed above, but it didn't "work" - it was far too overpowering! So I've left those as they are.

Anyway, for me at least I think this is better.

Gareth, puzzlemix

Posted 04/03/10 at 22:26
Last edited by gareth on 04/03/10 at 22:29
gareth Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
And another update: now the puzzle stats at the top of each comments page show the best first time in each case. This is significant because if you played the puzzle again before (and some people play each puzzle many times) then your best time ever would show up the best time for that puzzle, if you indeed were the fastest. But potentially this was unfair, for people who want to compare their times on an equal footing to other players.

So what this means is that if you do play the puzzle again that best time is now private just to you (and still shown as your best to you) - but only your first attempt will show up as a ranking result.

So loublou, your name now shows up! (at least as I write this, anyway)

Gareth, puzzlemix

Posted 04/03/10 at 23:25
gareth Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
And one final update - a book of 100 Killer Jigsaw Sudoku is now available for adding to your puzzlemix account, as someone requested by email earlier! :)

Gareth, puzzlemix

Posted 07/03/10 at 22:15
sccarlson Completion time: 17:08 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove'
Nice and challenging, thanks!
Posted 08/03/10 at 00:00
Mel_Jay Rated puzzle: 5 Completion time: 40:12 Used 'valid marks'
entertaining one!
Posted 09/03/10 at 14:30
pastasmissus Rated puzzle: 4 Completion time: 36:29 Used 'show wrong moves'
really enjoyed this - more please!!!!
Posted 09/03/10 at 21:15
anthonywebb Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 35:18 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove'
ok
Posted 13/03/10 at 21:16
colettes66 Rated puzzle: 3 Completion time: 20:26 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove' Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
That was fun.
Posted 19/03/10 at 19:30
Michael128 Completion time: 51:19 Used 'valid marks' Used 'auto remove' Used 'show invalid'
The best of all, until now
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